In addition, hats off to Staffsgt7 and DOBTX for their clear headed and enlightening comments.

I am no champion of Pat Robertson and getting into religous debates are always pointless and counterproductive when talking about radical Islam. but at least he almost “gets it” in his statement that ‘Islam is not a religion but a violent political system’. More correctly, it is a violent political system codified into a religion.

To those of you who are leaping to the defense of that nice Muslim family down the block – please understand that radical Islam is not about them. They are as at risk as us “infidels” and cannot or will not speak out for fear of reprisals from within their own community if they dare to openly oppose the ideology of the radical Imams and Shariah law.

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“Anti-Muslim propagandists” is a propaganda label. “True and honest (veritable) distortions” is an oxymoron. “Have to flood” is simply common sense.

“Through my various readings from the beginning of the Quran to the end, I haven’t seen those “equally violent verses in the Quran”, not even in verses which order Muslims what to do in a state of warfare declared on them.”

What? Forget the confusion is syntax (or your ability to read) and go directly to: “. . . of warfare declared on them.” When, exactly, did anyone declare war on Islam? Was it pre-632 when Abu Bakr charged out of Mecca/Medina and attacked everything and everybody in sight, evenutally conquering by sword most of the known world? Or a hundred years later in 732, when Charles Martel decided enough was enough and stopped the Muslim advance? Maybe post-WWI when Attaturk said, “Enough of this caliphate stuff, it’s killing people”? Maybe in 2001, when George Bush also decided enough was enough?

It would be a good idea for pro-Islamists like you, Ugur, to keep in mind that other people can read historical data. It would also be a good idea to remember that Arabic is not a mystery to linguists.

And maybe you should learn one of our favorite (and best) American presidents’ line: You may fool all the people some of the time, you can even fool some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all the time.”

I just have to answer a few cliche distortions above.

Through my various readings from the beginning of the Quran to the end, I haven’t seen those “equally violent verses in the Quran”, not even in verses which order Muslims what to do in a state of warfare declared on them. For example, unlike the Bible (which we Muslims believe is an altered version of the original text sent down by God, altered in order to fit the political purposes of some ancient clerics and political leaders), neither the Quran nor the Prophet ever sanction the killing of non-combatants. The Prophet explicitly condemns and prohibits it in authenticated reports (authenticated through the rigorous study of hadith in the early generations).

And the few verses which do call Muslims to kill some people are the ones that describe what to do in a situation of war, when Muslims are attacked.

That honor killings has any justification in Islam is another big lie and a great ignorance. The ruling for a man, under Islamic law, who killed a female relative of his for “honor” is the punishment of a murder. The honor killings are murder according to Islamic law, period. I’m astonished to see that the American public’s ignorance about Islam has not been reduced at all since late 2001 in which I started to use the internet in English… This is so sad.

Also, there is a large amount of confusion about the meaning of Islam, due to a lack of a subtle enough knowledge of the CLASSICAL Arabic language.

In lexical and textual reality, Islam is deriven from the root s-l-m which means both “safety” and “peace” in Arabic. It means to deliver something in peace to somebody or to surrender peacefully to somebody. In the Quran, expressions like “man aslama wajhahu lillah” define what Islam is, that is, what it means to deliver or surrender specifically and to whom. The mentioned expression means: “One who delivers/surrenders his face (idiomatically: his personal essence) to God.” This is the meaning of a Muslim. The surrender/delivery of the self to God has to be in the correct way, of course. According to the Quran, it’s impossible to be able to do this without acknowledging the only unaltered version of God’s messages to humankind, which is the one given to the last prophet, Muhammad (God bless him and give him peace).

I just would like to advise my brothers and sisters in humanity who are to read this message not to let themselves into the hands of the ill-willed people who want to pit some humans against others. As a Muslim, I’m doing my share about this and not accusing all Americans, all secular-minded people, all Christians and Jews or all westerners of the crimes and hate-campaigns of some of them against Muslims. So, I’d expect them, as my fellow siblings in humanity, to act likewise, and if possible, to learn about Islam from calm, tranquil, peaceful experts and not hate- and war-mongers.

Best regards
Ugur M. D.
Last year history student in Istanbul, Turkey; to be a specialist on Islamic history, God willing in the near future.

If you answer no to any of the following questions then you are an Islamophobe and Pat Robertson has been correct in his assessment of Islam:
1. Do you believe that slavery is OK?
2. Do you believe that sex slavery is OK?
3. Do you believe that polygamy is OK?
4. Do you believe that domestic violence is OK?
5. Do you believe that it’s OK to kill if people change religions?
6. Do you believe that extortion is OK?
7. Do you believe that it’s OK to call others pigs and apes?
8. Do you believe that it’s OK to kill gays?
9. Do you believe it’s OK to kill mothers, sisters, daughters, and women for
“honor”?
10. Do you believe it’s OK to kill others for insults, either real or
perceived?

I wish people would crack open Islamic texts. You would find out that in them, as in fascism, it divides people up into believers, unbelievers and hypocrites. Unbelievers and hypocrites (bad Muslims, or good people) are to have the same things done to them – death or subjugation.

The world is divided into dar al harb (realm of war) and dar al islam. Dar al harb are our unbeliever’s lands. And while in the realm of war – anything goes that advances Islam. In Islam, good is anything that promotes Islam and bad/evil is anything that hampers it.

Under Sharia laws (laws based on the koran and hadith), anyone who questions Islam, Mohammed, etc are either punished or put to death. Unbelievers are put to death.

I don’t know about anyone else – but I have studied Islam for almost 10 years now – and if it smells like a duck (fascism), quacks like a duck (fascism) then it IS a duck (fascism).

Ayatollah Khomeini, the most important Moslem leader of the 20th Century, said: “Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured? Islam says: Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter their armies…. Islam says: whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! the sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for the Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other Koranic psalms and Hadiths urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all this mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”
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“The meaning of the term ‘terror’ used by the media… is Jihad for the sake of Allah. Jihad is the peak of Islam. Moreover, some of the clerics … see it as the sixth pillar of Islam. Jihad –whether Jihad of defense of Muslims and of Islamic lands such as in Chechnya, the Philippines, and Afghanistan, or Jihad aimed at spreading the religion — is the pinnacle of terror, as far as the enemies of Allah are concerned. The Muhajeed who goes out to attain a martyr’s death or victory and returns with booty is a terrorist as far as the enemies of Allah are concerned… Jihad is the peak of Islam… Jihad, oh believers, is an integral part of our religion. The word ‘terror’ is used to damage this mighty and blessed foundation.” — Sheikh Wajdi Hamza Al-Ghazawi, Al-Manshawi Mosque, Mecca, October 6, 2001.

From Jihad in Islam by Sayyeed Abdul A’la Maududi, one of the most prolific and most widely read Islamic writer of the 20th Century:
“The goal of Islam is to rule the entire world and submit all of mankind to the faith of Islam. Any nation or power that gets in the way of that goal, Islam will fight and destroy.”
“Islam wishes to destroy all States and Governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The purpose of Islam is to set up a State on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which Nation assumes the role of the standard bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State.”

Will Connolly attack these Islamic religious authorities like he attacks Pat Robertson?

While Robertson did not provide evidence in his broadcast remarks, what he said is substantially correct. Islam is a war cult, not a legitimate religion and it is aggressively violent, by design. I won’t attempt to cram the factual evidence into this comment, but I will give you a link to it so that you can read the evidence, verify my sources and explore them for yourself. http://snooper.wordpress.com/2008/10/10/whats-wrong-with-islammuslims/

When a television evangelist says something you dislike, how should you respond? Should you waste the time and salary of a congressional staffer to complain about it? In my view, that action is disproportionate and irrational; a waste of taxpayer resources.

The best response is to respond directly to the speaker by phone or email. The next best response is to converse with friends & neighbors directly or express your opinion in a blog or forum post.

I urge everyone who disagrees with Pat Robertson’s statement about Islam to read the Qur’an & hadith. you can find links to them in my blog post.