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	<title>Comments on: Winners and Losers: Obama, Gilmore</title>
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		<title>By: chrisgraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisgraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarification point for Mr. Green regarding the Winners and Losers column:

The column is archived under our Winners and Losers category, which is tabbed under our Opinions and Observations main category. It is also linked under the Opinions and Observations header on the front page of the AFP.

Should you need any further assistance on whether or not Winners and Losers is an op-ed, feel free to write or call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarification point for Mr. Green regarding the Winners and Losers column:</p>
<p>The column is archived under our Winners and Losers category, which is tabbed under our Opinions and Observations main category. It is also linked under the Opinions and Observations header on the front page of the AFP.</p>
<p>Should you need any further assistance on whether or not Winners and Losers is an op-ed, feel free to write or call.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisgraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>chrisgraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The governor that first promised the car-tax cut was Jim Gilmore. And the guy failed to make happen what he promised would happen. He spent money as prodigiously as his supposedly more liberal successor did, and when it came time for his Republican friends in the General Assembly (the House and the Senate) to sign off on finishing out the car-tax relief that he himself couldn&#039;t finish, they wisely decided to forego taking that route.

That is a hard fact that Mr. Green can&#039;t seem to be able to accept. Unfortunately for him, he is one of the few Republicans out there having that problem. Gilmore&#039;s support statewide is registering below McGovern- and Mondale-level numbers, and it&#039;s largely because Republicans are abandoning ship in favor of Mark Warner because unlike his predecessor, he knows how to get Virginia moving forward.

But hey, if Gilmore&#039;s small base of supporters want to keep crowing about this &quot;tax cut&quot; that is nothing more than us taxpayers writing a check to Richmond that they can write back to us for a slightly smaller amount and saying that&#039;s the crowning achievement of his favored candidate, more power to them.

To address the subject of &quot;credibility&quot; before we move on from this silliness, how in the world can a guy who has a partisan blog offer criticism to another for being partisan and not look like a major-league hypocrite? I don&#039;t expect you, Chris, or anyone else, for that matter, to agree with anything I say or think or write, but I do expect you to demonstrate the basic rules of civilized debate.

Personal attacks are not going to be tolerated here. I do not at all want to stifle serious debate, but neither do I want our commenters subjected to personally-directed harangues. Stick to the issues, stick to the facts. There&#039;s plenty there to keep us chatting.

Thanks,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The governor that first promised the car-tax cut was Jim Gilmore. And the guy failed to make happen what he promised would happen. He spent money as prodigiously as his supposedly more liberal successor did, and when it came time for his Republican friends in the General Assembly (the House and the Senate) to sign off on finishing out the car-tax relief that he himself couldn&#8217;t finish, they wisely decided to forego taking that route.</p>
<p>That is a hard fact that Mr. Green can&#8217;t seem to be able to accept. Unfortunately for him, he is one of the few Republicans out there having that problem. Gilmore&#8217;s support statewide is registering below McGovern- and Mondale-level numbers, and it&#8217;s largely because Republicans are abandoning ship in favor of Mark Warner because unlike his predecessor, he knows how to get Virginia moving forward.</p>
<p>But hey, if Gilmore&#8217;s small base of supporters want to keep crowing about this &#8220;tax cut&#8221; that is nothing more than us taxpayers writing a check to Richmond that they can write back to us for a slightly smaller amount and saying that&#8217;s the crowning achievement of his favored candidate, more power to them.</p>
<p>To address the subject of &#8220;credibility&#8221; before we move on from this silliness, how in the world can a guy who has a partisan blog offer criticism to another for being partisan and not look like a major-league hypocrite? I don&#8217;t expect you, Chris, or anyone else, for that matter, to agree with anything I say or think or write, but I do expect you to demonstrate the basic rules of civilized debate.</p>
<p>Personal attacks are not going to be tolerated here. I do not at all want to stifle serious debate, but neither do I want our commenters subjected to personally-directed harangues. Stick to the issues, stick to the facts. There&#8217;s plenty there to keep us chatting.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
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		<title>By: Spank That Donkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spank That Donkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris:
You&#039;d be more credible as a journalist if... oh this is an op-ed? How can anyone ever tell the difference?

Try this on for size, Warner promised to finish phasing out the car tax.. spending went up $5.9 billion during his watch, and I reluctantly give him credit for $303 million towards reducing the Car Tax, just because the largest portion of that happened his first year in office, where it came from Gilmore&#039;s two year budget....

He really only put about $80 million towards the relief before he negotiated a freeze altogether.

That would be two lies in fifteen seconds.

Actual facts, some thing you may want to work into your articles...  Tim Kaine has seen spending in just two years go up 9.7% and 9.3% or a total of $5.8 billion dollars, yet finding $300 million to phase out the Car Tax is impossible?

We can&#039;t afford our government.... and you do have the option of paying your full car tax to Virginia on their web site.. have at it ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris:<br />
You&#8217;d be more credible as a journalist if&#8230; oh this is an op-ed? How can anyone ever tell the difference?</p>
<p>Try this on for size, Warner promised to finish phasing out the car tax.. spending went up $5.9 billion during his watch, and I reluctantly give him credit for $303 million towards reducing the Car Tax, just because the largest portion of that happened his first year in office, where it came from Gilmore&#8217;s two year budget&#8230;.</p>
<p>He really only put about $80 million towards the relief before he negotiated a freeze altogether.</p>
<p>That would be two lies in fifteen seconds.</p>
<p>Actual facts, some thing you may want to work into your articles&#8230;  Tim Kaine has seen spending in just two years go up 9.7% and 9.3% or a total of $5.8 billion dollars, yet finding $300 million to phase out the Car Tax is impossible?</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t afford our government&#8230;. and you do have the option of paying your full car tax to Virginia on their web site.. have at it <img src='http://augustafreepress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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